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[fritosaregood]

I know for a car you need to upgrade alot of the electrical backup to run alot of power.

What kind of electrical ugrades, if any are required to do a big subwoofer setup in a house? Like over 2000 watts for subwoofers,

[Mark LaFountain]

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 12:34 AM, said:

I know for a car you need to upgrade alot of the electrical backup to run alot of power.

What kind of electrical ugrades, if any are required to do a big subwoofer setup in a house? Like over 2000 watts for subwoofers,

I am not sure, but if you require more power, I would think just a bigger breaker unless you are doing some serious amperage draw, then possible some kind of upgrade.

[fritosaregood]

Do you know what gauge wire for a wall outlet is?

I really couldnt imagine that much power in a house though. with just 500 watts now my whole house shakes

[Duran]

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

[fritosaregood]

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

I dont know if I would right now, but I read on other forums where ppl talk about putting more than that much power to there home theaters. it just got me wondering about upgrades

[Duran]

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 01:42 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

I dont know if I would right now, but I read on other forums where ppl talk about putting more than that much power to there home theaters. it just got me wondering about upgrades

Was that to the entire system though? Or just the subwoofer?

[Bass]

I run a 2200 watt amp to my subs in my Liv HT. I havent u[pgraded power yet. I plan on replacing breaker and running larger wires too. I have actually clipped my amp once, but wonder if it was due to limited power on tap from house. Subs didnt distort, but lights went dim light my car does when batts r low. Oh BTW 2kw on bass on 2 LLT subs is REALLY nice! Not as nice as 10KW would be though, there is always room for improvement.

[Bass]

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 01:42 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

I dont know if I would right now, but I read on other forums where ppl talk about putting more than that much power to there home theaters. it just got me wondering about upgrades

ported arent as efficient as T-Line or horns though.

[fritosaregood]

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:53 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 01:42 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

I dont know if I would right now, but I read on other forums where ppl talk about putting more than that much power to there home theaters. it just got me wondering about upgrades

Was that to the entire system though? Or just the subwoofer?

just to the sub, it was like 2500 watts at 4 ohms.
but after some math, 120 volt outlet assuming 75% efficiency is about 28 amps. thats not too much is it

[Duran]

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 02:17 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:53 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 01:42 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

I dont know if I would right now, but I read on other forums where ppl talk about putting more than that much power to there home theaters. it just got me wondering about upgrades

Was that to the entire system though? Or just the subwoofer?

just to the sub, it was like 2500 watts at 4 ohms.
but after some math, 120 volt outlet assuming 75% efficiency is about 28 amps. thats not too much is it

Not at all, considering a 2500 watt amp in a vehicle draws over 250 amps at 14 volts.

[Bass]

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 02:17 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:53 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 01:42 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

I dont know if I would right now, but I read on other forums where ppl talk about putting more than that much power to there home theaters. it just got me wondering about upgrades

Was that to the entire system though? Or just the subwoofer?

just to the sub, it was like 2500 watts at 4 ohms.
but after some math, 120 volt outlet assuming 75% efficiency is about 28 amps. thats not too much is it

just check the breaker for that outlet and see if it is just a 15 amp like mine is. Cant believe minehasnt tripped yet, but the lights dim when I start getting loud. My amp is class D Crest Audio so it is efficient I suppose. I would suggest a 30 amp breaker, that doesnt take into acount power to receiver or ampos for the rest of the system. They make special receptacles for better power transfer as well.

[fritosaregood]

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 02:21 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 02:17 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:53 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 01:42 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

I dont know if I would right now, but I read on other forums where ppl talk about putting more than that much power to there home theaters. it just got me wondering about upgrades

Was that to the entire system though? Or just the subwoofer?

just to the sub, it was like 2500 watts at 4 ohms.
but after some math, 120 volt outlet assuming 75% efficiency is about 28 amps. thats not too much is it

Not at all, considering a 2500 watt amp in a vehicle draws over 250 amps at 14 volts.

its still ok for 14 gauge wire?
if so I guess I shouldnt have anythin to worry about if I ever upgrade to that

[fritosaregood]

Bass, on 05 January 2010 - 02:23 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 02:17 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:53 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 01:42 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

I dont know if I would right now, but I read on other forums where ppl talk about putting more than that much power to there home theaters. it just got me wondering about upgrades

Was that to the entire system though? Or just the subwoofer?

just to the sub, it was like 2500 watts at 4 ohms.
but after some math, 120 volt outlet assuming 75% efficiency is about 28 amps. thats not too much is it

just check the breaker for that outlet and see if it is just a 15 amp like mine is. Cant believe minehasnt tripped yet, but the lights dim when I start getting loud. My amp is class D Crest Audio so it is efficient I suppose. I would suggest a 30 amp breaker, that doesnt take into acount power to receiver or ampos for the rest of the system. They make special receptacles for better power transfer as well.

is it really safe to just upgrade a breaker without upgradin wire? If i ever did blow a breaker I would just have to use different outlets around my room

[Duran]

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 02:28 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 02:21 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 02:17 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:53 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 01:42 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

I dont know if I would right now, but I read on other forums where ppl talk about putting more than that much power to there home theaters. it just got me wondering about upgrades

Was that to the entire system though? Or just the subwoofer?

just to the sub, it was like 2500 watts at 4 ohms.
but after some math, 120 volt outlet assuming 75% efficiency is about 28 amps. thats not too much is it

Not at all, considering a 2500 watt amp in a vehicle draws over 250 amps at 14 volts.

its still ok for 14 gauge wire?
if so I guess I shouldnt have anythin to worry about if I ever upgrade to that

Remember it's only 28 amps.

[Bass]

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 02:28 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 02:21 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 02:17 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:53 AM, said:

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 01:42 AM, said:

Duran, on 05 January 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

Most of it is 14-16 gauge solid wire. I wouldn't run 2000 watts in a house though that's insane. Your homes power is different than a vehicle though.

I dont know if I would right now, but I read on other forums where ppl talk about putting more than that much power to there home theaters. it just got me wondering about upgrades

Was that to the entire system though? Or just the subwoofer?

just to the sub, it was like 2500 watts at 4 ohms.
but after some math, 120 volt outlet assuming 75% efficiency is about 28 amps. thats not too much is it

Not at all, considering a 2500 watt amp in a vehicle draws over 250 amps at 14 volts.

its still ok for 14 gauge wire?
if so I guess I shouldnt have anythin to worry about if I ever upgrade to that

Like car audio wire awg depends on run length. Keep in mind we are talking bout 120 volt as opposed to 12 volt though. I was thinking about getting some good 12 or 10 awg speaker wire o run to the breaker after i repolace it with the biggest it will accept. I have to run the wire 68 ft to my Living room theater....not optimal.

[fritosaregood]

Alright, thanks for the help. Maked me glad I wont have to rewire a house like I did my car.

[Deephaven]

fritosaregood, on 05 January 2010 - 02:36 AM, said:

Alright, thanks for the help. Maked me glad I wont have to rewire a house like I did my car.

Yes you will. The wire is sized for the breaker.

*assumes of course you exceed the current draw for the breaker you have.

In reality it is a good idea to pull new circuits in your house as a fresh ground is a great idea. I haven't gotten around to it yet, but I am pulling at least 3 maybe 4 circuits into my "media closet" so I can let everything run on clean fresh power lines.

[95Honda]

When I had my dual XXX 18" substage running a few years ago in the states I was running an honest 5Kw on them. I upgraded to 2 circuits, one for each sub amp, on 30 amp breakers with #10 wire. This got rid of a roughly 15V drop I was getting on the original cruddy wiring.

[fritosaregood]

95Honda, on 05 January 2010 - 03:08 PM, said:

When I had my dual XXX 18" substage running a few years ago in the states I was running an honest 5Kw on them. I upgraded to 2 circuits, one for each sub amp, on 30 amp breakers with #10 wire. This got rid of a roughly 15V drop I was getting on the original cruddy wiring.

how did you run the upgraded wire?

sidenote: is anyone else havin kind of like a glitch problem with the forum. on some threads i have to scroll down forever and never get to the bottom. and sometimes the replies closer to the bottom have about a half inch of writing with. so a single sentence is about 10 or more lines long

[Deephaven]

You either get to fish wire and cut holes in your sheet rock every 3-4' to tie them down or remove the sheetrock in larger pieces to make the fishing easier.

It isn't fun, nor cheap. If you thought the big 3 was expensive get ready to cry....unless of course you have open walls in which case it is super easy

*no glitches here